I would never use one as a slave. Pokémon Brilliant Diamond. In their most recent iteration, most HM moves have a Base Power of at least 80 with the only exceptions being Cut, Rock Smash, and Whirlpool. In Gen 1, this was the major reason I didn't choose charizard. I personally think this is wrong, we should instead use HM indentured servants, and after a certain amount of time free them. M. That was before facing E4 and Cynthia. Bibarell is the ultimate HM slave. With that being said, I also don't like to shove all of them onto 2 Pokémon. Generation VII. Siege mode! It is probably the best slave choice in the game in terms of giving mobility on the map. In generation 1, as a small child, the concept of an "HM slave" never occurred to me. . One of the worst things about earlier Pokémon games were the Hidden Machines mechanic, where certain moves like Cut or Surf were needed to progress through the game, but were gated by some sort of obstacle. Worst: HM Slaves. This gives it plenty of variety when it comes to utility outside of battle. ago. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. Pokémon Yellow. Waste of EXP man, fuck that. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. Red Blue: Its pincers are not only powerful weapons, they are used for balance when walking sideways. wikikiwis 13 years ago #1. Right now with 4 badges I'm rolling with Level 63 Pikachu Level 41 Mew Level 41 Alakazam Level 31 Alakazam Level 13 Clefairy Level 12 Oddish You can probably guess the two non-contributing factors to my team (hint: its not the two Alakazams). PP. 5 HM Slaves Required HMs, or Hidden Machines, assisted trainers in accessing new areas. From the third generation onwards, Pokémon have a. BtlMaster. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. Pikachu - Generation 1 learnset. Row 0 - Cell 2. Ce-001: 650: Chespin: Grass: 2: Ce-002: 651: Quilladin: Grass: 2: Ce-003: 652. Log in to add games to your lists. Cut, just a weak normal type move. Only 2 (Dragonite and Mew) can learn all six HMs. I also like keeping a staryu/starmie. When I started playing Pearl, i distributed the important HMs to ALL the pokemon in my party, i. ago. Move filters. Rui_O_Grande_PT • 2 yr. ago. Do You use HM slaves? Thread starter Typhlosionvsworld; Start date Mar 14, 2011; Status Not open for further replies. c_s_tadsen ( Expert ) - 2 years ago - report. And finally by. I have Lapras. so any pokemon that can learn fly + 3 other HMs pairs with Bibarel, which is quite an easy pokemon to obtain. Pokémon Blue. HM slaves ftw. 231 votes, 84 comments. The POKéMON can roll into a ball that repels any attack. Jan 2, 2015. It learns Cut and Strength as well, putting it comfortably in the “3 HM” category that seems to dominate in Gen 6. Dig can be used to escape from caves. Wishcash. 8. Pokémon Blue. I think crawdaunt learns all those moves. . The player will eventually need to. But I still use them in battle. Here’s a list of Pokemon that IMO could make good fits for such a team: Grass: Venusaur, Victreebel (B/Y), Vileplume (R), Exeggutor (requires grinding). . As Dresden said, that's where you get HM03. Basically, get one of the 3HMers and something else. ago. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Reply 300zxTwinTurbo •. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to Whirlpool. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. Whether a massive boulder impeded the path, or a simple shrub blocked a hole in a fence, HMs taught Pokémon. 2 HM Slaves For Both Gen 1 & 2 So I've gotten into Pokemon and i wanted to start from the ground up. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. Notify me about new: Guides. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Riding Pokémon is somewhat a theme in Alola so I wouldn't be surprised if HM moves returned in gen 8. HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machine. Aromatherapy - cures status effects from the whole team. However, many items and side-quests may require you to use the HMs Strength, Surf, Dive and Waterfall. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. The power, accuracy and other information listed below is as it was in the respective games. One of the key changes in Pokemon is that Game Freak slowly phased out HMs. Good HM Slave. Zapdos. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. Prev. Flash is a tm so just put it on someone and then replace it if you want :p. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Krabby can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, and Rock Smash. I dun use HM slaves because Pokemon are my friends. Golduck can use Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. [deleted] • 4 yr. A Hidden Machine, HM for short, is an item that, like a TM, is used to teach a Pokémon a move. The egg cycles of the pokemon are 40 (10,024–10,280 steps). Log in to add games to your lists. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. Covers pretty much everything you need except Surf and Waterfall. Cut. The amount of damage from the poison increases every turn. Water Gym Leader. Two, same reason as the HM's in Hoenn, I try to avoid repeating types on the same team. It is known as the Pokémon which resembles armor. I use a Munchlax with the pick up ability and the HM moves Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. Here's some movesets. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. Teach him Sunny Day and Solar Beam. I always found the game to be more rewarding and challenging by only raising 4 or 5 pokemon on my way through my first Elite 4 clear, and having the 6th slot for a 'utility' pokemon. Select up to 4 moves then click Find Pokémon to search. Did use Tropius many times. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. ago. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. " - Page 3. Zeimma • 9 yr. I've never used HM slaves. Type. rojse 8 years ago #6. Cut. We need some HM slave appreciation. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 7 posts, 9/26 10:11AM. 2 Answers. This allows pokemon that won't have many good STAB moves until they evolve and gain a 2nd type the change to have STAB moves. No matter what Pokémon I have in my party I always like to have all HM's on me at once so that I'm not restricted in any way during gameplay. ago. TheJokersTurn • 4 yr. c_s_tadsen ( Expert ) - 2 years ago - report. 360 GT: Doom. Ridiculously broken Pokémon obtained much earlier than a Pokémon of its strength should. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. Joined May 31, 2013. A striped background indicates a generation in which the move can only be obtained via event or as a special move. Jp. A Corphish can actually be caught quite early in the Hoenn region. I. Golduck can use Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Yes, i know they're old and i'm just now doing this. 1. League Bosses Gen 1-9 Community Tier List (Day 1)(FRLG)(Brock, Misty, Lt. That just leaves HM Flash, HM Cut, and HM Fly. Add your answer. Tbf they're all good for playthroughs in their own way. MeiChama Spazztastic. sandslash. Generation IX. Once it evolves into Crawdaunt, a ton of. The pokemon developers do not make changes like these because how conservative the gaming community is and how hung up they are on th 'nostalgia factor'. I think corphish can also learn cut too. I think corphish can also learn cut too. ORAS/Gen 3 were the worst, Platinum was the best. Once I have completed the game, I usually have a water pokemon knowing Surf and a HM slave with Fly and some other moves . Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Jan 4, 2012. Spore - 100% Sleep. The two cover every HM. Once it evolves into Crawdaunt, a ton of. Charizard is a starter HM slave that can also attack. e. Annoyingly, once you get to Kanto you will need at least one HM slave in your party for a few of the gyms, as the entrance to Vermilion Gym is blocked by a cuttable tree, and reaching the volcano where Blaine's gym was relocated requires surf. 4. :bidoof: Gyarados - Rock Smash, Waterfall. I usually use a Lickitung for my HM slave. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. r/pokemon • Gen 1 Dark Types. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. In spin-off games: Mystery Dungeon series. All Grass (and perhaps Steel) types in your party can now cut down trees. In Pokémon Yellow, Nidoking and Nidoqueen are easiest Pokémon to obtain that can both learn Surf and Strength. #11. Fly + Flash. TM 05 Mega Kick (Celadon Dept/Victory Road): There is a lot of competition for Normal type moves, but the high damage (120 Power), at a low accuracy (and PP) tradeoff can be useful. Friend Code: 0447-6401-4083 Psychic type (forgot what. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. This page lists all the moves that Pikachu can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. With that being said, I also don't like to shove all of them onto 2 Pokémon. Swords Dance and Agility at levels 23 and 31, respectively, help it sweep, with the former combining well with all STAB moves bar Slash. Zigzagoon/Linoone every time I play gen 3. EDIT: So I just noticed that Mudkip’s HM learn set is different in Gen 6. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Generation 4 introduced two new HMs: Defog, for clearing foggy areas; and Rock Climb, for scaling rock faces in certain places. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. #1. . In the core series: Generation I • Generation II • Generation III • Generation IV • Generation V • Generation VI. Then by replacing them with riding pokemon in Alola. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. False swipe - lowers pokemon 1 hp does kill it. It has the most amount of HMs that it can learn, I mean look at all of them! Bibarel, as a beaver, can do a lot of things that other animals can't. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. Can even learn surf, though I usually had a good water type with that bc surf was so OP. This is the place for most…A Gym Badge (Japanese: ジムバッジ Gym Badge), commonly referred to as simply a badge (Japanese: バッジ badge), is an item that serves as proof of a Pokémon Trainer's victory in a battle against a Gym Leader at a Pokémon Gym. i got rhyhorn with rock smash and strengh. 19. imgur. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. That’s not to say he’s bad; he’s just the least memorable for me. At no point was rotom at all relevant to the function of the bike. hms. I dun use HM slaves because Pokemon are my friends. And a. Sleep Status makes it easier to catch pokemon. Type. You either have a nickname planned from the moment you see it or spend two hours ruminating because you don’t wanna ruin such an amazing Pokémon with such a shitty name. Apr 7, 2010. I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. Gyarados is also great. 1 0Applying this to following pokemon in BDSP keeps the feel of the original games whilst giving good quality of life. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. It's nice not having to have 1 or more HM slaves in your party, or wasting move slots on your good Pokemon, but it also makes exploration feel soulless and boring. Had something like 8 mons I rotated through, hence the hard decisions here Reply More posts you may like. A New HM System: Have access to all of your favourite HMs without the hassle of carrying HM slaves! As long as your Pokemon can learn an HM, they will be able to use it in the overworld. Re: HM Slaves. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in FireRed ( Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Strength ). ago. The main reasons being because. Hey all, I haven't seen a discussion talking about what pokemon are the best HM slaves for Gen 5. Rock Smash. In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. Same for other HMs: Fly - Flying types (duh) Strength - Normal or Fighting types. . If you can get a couple Mews, they're the best HM slaves you'll ever get. 0. Both get a lot of critical hits because of their speed. KillerFugu • 4 yr. 2 Ludicolo. 4. Tempo Owner Karma: 24 Offline Gender:. :bidoof: Roserade - Cut. I just need one pokemon that can use Cut, Fly, and any 2 of the other HMs, and the only 2 pokemon that I have seen that can do this are Dragonite, and Charizard. #1. I need a HM slave for firered but i dont know which ones can learn 4 hm moves. A pokemon that can learn a couple of the HM moves to make it easier. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. Pokemon from every Gen up to 6, and updated move sets for each Pokemon. One of the key changes in Pokemon is that Game Freak slowly phased out HMs. so any pokemon that can learn fly + 3 other HMs pairs with Bibarel, which is quite an easy pokemon to obtain. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. If your game has multiple water HMs, then use lapras. So you no longer need to dedicate a move slot to traverse through water, or to clear those pesky obstacles that block your way. Mew is the obvious choice. Y. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. 130 comments. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Gen 5 actually requires less HM’s than most games right? Like cut is only required for the dream yard, I think you only need to surf a few times, same with strength, and waterfall I believe you need too. Krabby can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, and Rock Smash. jonosaurus • 9 yr. ORAS: slakoth- cut, rock smash, strength and yawn (ultimately becoming my catching pokemon along with HM slave) And magikarp/gyarados- surf, waterfall and dive. Both of these were thankfully fixed in Gen 2. It burrows and lives underground. Wishcash was a solid HM slave when it was introduced in Gen III, and that use carries over here. 1. ago. Zapdos. #1. Zigzagoon/Linoone every time I play gen 3. Hidden Machines (HMs) in HeartGold/SoulSilver. 12. as an ex-Serebii Mod playing. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. I don't mind HMs though, I'm used to have HM slaves in my party since I usuallay play the game with 2-3 main pokemon anyway. Multi-target moves Attacks like Surf or Rock Slide that hit multiple Pokémon. If I did, my rule would be to catch some Pokémon that can learn it, but they wouldn't be used in battle. mew (:p muahahahahaha + one of the 2 pokemon that can learn every HM) craindose. I take him with those moves; as well as secret power for the bases, and any water type for the 3 water HMs. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. Cheats. HM slaves might be helpful for some people, but I like to play differently. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. Notify me about new: Guides. Cut. Reviews. Also: Dig and thief. Hope this helps :D. The function of HMs remains the same. KillerFugu • 4 yr. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in Diamond, Pearl & Platinum. I try to balance the HMs and TMs on my team. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Beyond that, I think you're clear, but HMs are a little more required in HG/SS. I would never use one as a slave. You could also get a slowpoke or poliwag and level it up until it knows amnesia and bask in the sweet glow of +4 stat boosts since special. If you want a stronger Normal/Flying type maybe go for the Turducken pokemon line (Forget what its called) or for another flying type go with the Cloucat line (Dark/Flying) since it can be speedy and mixed and has a huge variety. Egg Moves can only be relearned if the pokemon was bred in gen 6 though. credit to a liikala post. Either that or sacrifice a move slot on your main Mons for an HM move. for a series that tries so f***ing hard to sell you the idea of "pokemon are you friend and both of you help eachother" the removal of this is nonsensical from relying on your ""friends" you go to abusing mindless slaves to clear obstacles/just. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. Thanks for posting, Trainer! If you want more Pokémon, why not check out our Official Discord Server for active trades, giveaways, or just a place to talk about pokemon. Bold indicates a move that gets STAB when used by Doduo. Quite a valuable asset. Generation VIII. I don't like having a pokemon on my team with a. Swanna - HM Surf - Hm Dive - HM Fly. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. From Generations 1 to 3, a Pokémon which knew the HM "Cut" could cut down Tall Grass. ago. :) I think Marillis better. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. IMO the only 2 bad things about HGSS are 1- that some legendary Pokemon in gen 4 are locked to DPPT. 5. Best answer. So, I do use HM slaves, but not for all HMs. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. We’re working in descending order, meaning Blaine is the “worst” Gen I gym leader, in my opinion. Not like Gen 4 where you need multiple HM slaves to cut, defog, surf, waterfall, rock smash, strength, and rock climb. Header Cell - Column 2. This is another generation 5 Pokémon that isn't especially strong but is somewhat iconic to the region. In Generation 1, Krabby has a base Special stat of 25. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail folders-Gen 1 Attackdex-Gen 2 Attackdex-Gen 3 Attackdex-Gen 4 Attackdex-Gen 5 Attackdex-Gen 6 Attackdex-Gen 7 Attackdex-Gen 8 Attackdex-Gen 9 Attackdex; ItemDex; Pokéarth; Abilitydex; Spin-Off Pokédex;. Ability Capsule. Best. You guys are discussing which pokemon to make an hm slave. The Move Deleter guy lives there. 6: 5--A NORMAL-type attack. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. Notify me about new: Guides. You all guessed it, it's Bibarel! Bibarel is the most impressive HM Slave of all time. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. Since Special is one stat, it can take special attacks and attack with high damage itself. No explanation or anything, just the same lead up as bidoof, but suddenly it's God Reply. Comparing gen 2 to the rest of the games though makes gen 2 seem more like generation 1. For the other HMs get a Wailmer. Couldn't fly so you'd need 2 flying types on you at most times. Technical Machines. I got Pokemon blue for GBC and i wanted to know the lowest number of hm slaves i could have without mew so i could make room for my mains. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. You either have a nickname planned from the moment you see it or spend two hours ruminating because you don’t wanna ruin such an amazing Pokémon with such a shitty name. Bidoof/Zigzagoon are both available early and work well, while Hawlucha is available a bit later but can learn all the non-water moves. HM Slaves are a common practice among the fans of Pokémon; after all, you need someone to use all of those Hidden Machines. Until HM moves are made unnecessary for going through the games their will always be pokemon who will only be caught for the sake of muling the moves we need but dont want to use. Generation 2 also adds a Move Deleter character, allowing Pokémon to forget HM moves once learned. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen keep the original 5 HMs from Red/Blue, but also contain Rock Smash and Waterfall, which were introduced in Ruby/Sapphire. Topic: Best Gen 5 HM Slaves? (Read 264 times) JCBellsprout. Gen 2. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. Country. This page lists all the moves that Pikachu can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. hm-slave. In Pokemon Black and White, Cut is the only HM move required to complete the main storyline, and even then it does not require frequent use. Krabby was introduced in Generation 1 and it is nicknamed the River Crab. hms. Flash (Japanese: フラッシュ Flash) is a non-damaging Normal-type move introduced in Generation I. I like having one HM slave to hold my crummy moves and the nicer HMs be passed around between my actual team members, but unfortunately I have found that there would appear to be no good HM slaves in gen. 1K votes, 41 comments.